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No, not asking for volunteers, just telling you that people who post advice on here are volunteers. IOW, no one gets paid in anything beyond "thank you", "great job", and an overall feeling of doing well and helping others out. Even Digitanium does this for free and he's done a mountainous task with this awesome CMS!
So think twice before you complain, bump posts after a few hours (I've seen as little as 10 minutes!), get mad because people won't code special add-ons to your site, and generally go around "mis-behavin".
If I see a post that I feel I can help with, I check it out. I can't tell you how many occasions I'm spent my own time on other's people's problems and I just started this not too long back. For what? So I can hopefully get a check in the mail from you? So I can get my name creditted on a feature on your site? No, I do it because I'd like the same done for me. That's what a "community" is supposed to be about but like the US and its welfare system, there are too many with their hands out.
Responding to unanswered questions with expletives, complaints, or other general bad actions will not make people rush to help you. In fact, you may just find you'll be ignored on other requests in the future because we don't like dealing with folks with nasty dispositions. Instead - if you really can't figure something out - offer to explain your situation more clearly or politely ask for help again. Sometimes posts do get missed. But don't get sarcastic and demean the general populace for not addressing your issue.
Learn something called "give and take". You give advice on an issue you know something about, maybe you'll get to take some on another you don't but others do. If all you do is ask, ask, ask, and then throw tantrums or show impatience when things are not done according to your schedule, you just take up unecessary database memory with your post and you make others angry. After that, your likelihood of getting help on anything else goes way down.
Remember, this is all free, and unlike so many other things, you actually are getting way more than you've paid for!
So think twice before you complain, bump posts after a few hours (I've seen as little as 10 minutes!), get mad because people won't code special add-ons to your site, and generally go around "mis-behavin".
If I see a post that I feel I can help with, I check it out. I can't tell you how many occasions I'm spent my own time on other's people's problems and I just started this not too long back. For what? So I can hopefully get a check in the mail from you? So I can get my name creditted on a feature on your site? No, I do it because I'd like the same done for me. That's what a "community" is supposed to be about but like the US and its welfare system, there are too many with their hands out.
Responding to unanswered questions with expletives, complaints, or other general bad actions will not make people rush to help you. In fact, you may just find you'll be ignored on other requests in the future because we don't like dealing with folks with nasty dispositions. Instead - if you really can't figure something out - offer to explain your situation more clearly or politely ask for help again. Sometimes posts do get missed. But don't get sarcastic and demean the general populace for not addressing your issue.
Learn something called "give and take". You give advice on an issue you know something about, maybe you'll get to take some on another you don't but others do. If all you do is ask, ask, ask, and then throw tantrums or show impatience when things are not done according to your schedule, you just take up unecessary database memory with your post and you make others angry. After that, your likelihood of getting help on anything else goes way down.
Remember, this is all free, and unlike so many other things, you actually are getting way more than you've paid for!
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well spoken, kejonn ...
everyone should also remember that there's an age gap between the users - some are really young others are hanging on to life with their fingertips.
this gap could result in different behaviour ...
everyone should also remember that there's an age gap between the users - some are really young others are hanging on to life with their fingertips.
this gap could result in different behaviour ...
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kejonn wrote:...but like the US and its welfare system, there are too many with their hands out.
But back to your topic,
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kejonn wrote:
Responding to unanswered questions with expletives, complaints, or other general bad actions will not make people rush to help you. In fact, you may just find you'll be ignored on other requests in the future because we don't like dealing with folks with nasty dispositions.
I know it does not make me a better human being, but I become agressive when people complain in a nasty way.
As well, even if authorized, I'm not keen to help people who remove the copyright notice.
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kejonn wrote:Learn something called "give and take".
But I'd like to ask for one more couple of things:
* before posting, download (and read :)) the handbook and use the search function;
* please write in plain English, with a title stating your point, not your distress. First, your Help me!!!!! will look like many other ones, and when our time is expensive, we only go to the post we're going to be able to help.
B)
Edited by Quartzkyte on 24-07-2006 09:19,
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Kenjonn well said mate!. I guess this was why a certain member damanding help and complaining was banned from this site the other day, it was non stop, so we sorted him out. We are working for free to build this great CMS even further, and people who complain about support etc are not wanted.
Think about this:
You have been asked to work for someone and you say yes. You get to work and they say, but we are not going to pay you??? Just imagine that, this is basically what is happening here, but out of the good of many hearts.
So 3 rules:
1. Relax
2. Be Patient
3. No Windging
Your question will have been answered.
Think about this:
You have been asked to work for someone and you say yes. You get to work and they say, but we are not going to pay you??? Just imagine that, this is basically what is happening here, but out of the good of many hearts.
So 3 rules:
1. Relax
2. Be Patient
3. No Windging
Your question will have been answered.
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Well said mate!!
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kejonn:
very well said, thanks for taking the time.
warmest regards,
ginny :D:D
very well said, thanks for taking the time.
warmest regards,
ginny :D:D
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Spot on....A+++++
Now somebody please write me a blogging system, an infusion to do abc and a MOD to do xyz. Ta. :p
...Just joking! :D
Now somebody please write me a blogging system, an infusion to do abc and a MOD to do xyz. Ta. :p
...Just joking! :D
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Well, I gotta put in my 2 cents... This is really a great site, great program, and great people (even though I know no one). It is a virtual community, which is always difficult.
However, the comment about US welfare and people with their hands out, I must beg to differ. Welfare and social safety nets (which the US doesn't have) tend to keep societies sane. On the other hand, the US problem is more of "me-centeredness." "Help me because it's me." I say this as both an American and Canadian citizen. Canada with a more extensive welfare/social safety net is much more about taking care of one another (good of society rather than "me").
When i write for help, people have been quite helpful. It's great! If I can't get the help I need, it's not unlike to old days (I'm not hanging onto life... yet... still feel young, but my body often disagrees) of programming, when I couldn't find any help in books or from people. But, eventually, the solution pops into one's head. I think patience is a key to anything one does with technology.
Thanks everyone!!
Jeff
However, the comment about US welfare and people with their hands out, I must beg to differ. Welfare and social safety nets (which the US doesn't have) tend to keep societies sane. On the other hand, the US problem is more of "me-centeredness." "Help me because it's me." I say this as both an American and Canadian citizen. Canada with a more extensive welfare/social safety net is much more about taking care of one another (good of society rather than "me").
When i write for help, people have been quite helpful. It's great! If I can't get the help I need, it's not unlike to old days (I'm not hanging onto life... yet... still feel young, but my body often disagrees) of programming, when I couldn't find any help in books or from people. But, eventually, the solution pops into one's head. I think patience is a key to anything one does with technology.
Thanks everyone!!
Jeff
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hey, could someone help me program a rank system? My site is admin-z.awardspace.com I need it to go up when the user gets a certain amount of points... Also I was wondering if someone could help me program something that keeps track of what challenges you have beaten and only give you points if you have not beat it...
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Kejonn, as our previous speakers, its all right and ok.
As far as your Topic Title goes -
Evil and Darkness is always looking for "volunteers"...
As far as your Topic Title goes -
Evil and Darkness is always looking for "volunteers"...
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well said.....
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Ok, for not bumping threads that are 10 minutes old, well that's one thing. But bumping a thread that is almost 8 months old :wtf:
Anyhow, the reasoning is of course still valid and I am here to make sure the "Volunteers" wont get abused. Or else.
/ glares a rusty bloodstained axe in the corner of the bedrooom
/ makes mental note, nag Digi for a WTF smiley
Anyhow, the reasoning is of course still valid and I am here to make sure the "Volunteers" wont get abused. Or else.
/ glares a rusty bloodstained axe in the corner of the bedrooom
/ makes mental note, nag Digi for a WTF smiley
Edited by Homdax on 10-05-2008 11:18,
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We all like using PHPFusion that is why we are here to help.
It's our hobby no our job,
We do not get paid we do voluntarily.
Why do we do it because we want to help contribute to the project as much as we can.
We are always here to help that's what we like.
We all help each other out that is what a community is all about.
You teach me, I teach you, he teaches him, she teaches her and so on.
You know you learn lots of interesting things everyday that's part of the fun. :)
It's our hobby no our job,
We do not get paid we do voluntarily.
Why do we do it because we want to help contribute to the project as much as we can.
We are always here to help that's what we like.
We all help each other out that is what a community is all about.
You teach me, I teach you, he teaches him, she teaches her and so on.
You know you learn lots of interesting things everyday that's part of the fun. :)
Edited by Craig on 02-07-2010 16:29,
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I just love to see how this thread was bumped by spambots and one of our Moderators replied to them.
Those bots are cunning.
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